Comments for whyileft.org http://www.whyileft.org Thoughts from the mind of Josh Spiers: Formerly Apostolic Pentecostal, always Christian Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:37:58 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 Comment on What does the Bible say about women wearing pants? by Blanche Colgate///Toby Toby http://www.whyileft.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-women-wearing-pants/comment-page-1/#comment-3260 Blanche Colgate///Toby Toby Tue, 09 Mar 2010 19:37:58 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-women-wearing-pants/#comment-3260 I don't know if this article will be on this site long enough for anyone to see it or not. But anyway here are some Scripture's. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter time's some shall depart from the Faith, giving heed to Seducing Spirit's and Doctrine's of Devil's. 2 Timothy 3:12-13 Yea, and all that will live God'ly in Christ Jesus shall suffer Persecution. But evil men and seducer's shall wax worse and worse, Deceiving and being Deceived. 4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine; (but after their own lust's) shall they heap to themselve's teacher's having itching ear's, and they shall turn away their ear's from the truth, and shall be turned into fable's. Titus 2:14 Who Gave Himself for us, that he might Redeem us from all Iniquity and Purify unto Himself ("a Peculiar People,) Zealous of good work's. 2 Thessalonian's 2:10 And with all Deceivableness of Unrighteousness in them that Perish; because they received not the Love of the Truth that they might be Saved. 1Peter 5:8 Be Sober, be Vigilant; because your (Adversary the Devil,walketh about , seeking whom he may Devour.) (Be not Conformed to this World.) I don’t know if this article will be on this site long enough for anyone to see it or not. But anyway here are some Scripture’s. 1 Timothy 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly that in the latter time’s some shall depart from the Faith, giving heed to Seducing Spirit’s and Doctrine’s of Devil’s.

2 Timothy 3:12-13 Yea, and all that will live God’ly in Christ Jesus shall suffer Persecution. But evil men and seducer’s shall wax worse and worse, Deceiving and being Deceived.

4:3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound Doctrine; (but after their own lust’s) shall they heap to themselve’s teacher’s having itching ear’s, and they shall turn away their ear’s from the truth, and shall be turned into fable’s.

Titus 2:14 Who Gave Himself for us, that he might Redeem us from all Iniquity and Purify unto Himself (”a Peculiar People,) Zealous of good work’s.

2 Thessalonian’s 2:10 And with all Deceivableness of Unrighteousness in them that Perish; because they received not the Love of the Truth that they might be Saved.

1Peter 5:8 Be Sober, be Vigilant; because your (Adversary the Devil,walketh about , seeking whom he may Devour.)

(Be not Conformed to this World.)

]]> Comment on Response to UPC Bible study on women wearing pants by Brandi http://www.whyileft.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-women-wearing-pants/comment-page-1/#comment-3258 Brandi Tue, 09 Mar 2010 15:52:30 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-women-wearing-pants/#comment-3258 I am 28 years old and have attended a UPC church for the past 14 years. About 3 years ago I began to study scriptures concerning "standards" for MYSELF. What I found was scriptures that were twisted and didn't really apply. I told my husband, who at the time was a youth pastor, how I felt. I was literally on the verge of a nervous breakdown from so much pressure about the skirt issue. He said we would have to tell our pastor. So our pastor came to our house, I told him how I felt and ask me if I had fasted and prayed about this and I told him yes. He told me that he would reveal it to the ladies at church and let them know that my husband did not agree and that I would be pulled from every area of leadership (Platform singer, sunday school involvement, youth class, everything). Then he went on to tell me that he would warn other who became to close to me to not hang around me because of my pants. Believe me, he sure did that! Once everyone found out I was wearing pants I was pretty much an outcast. My husband was still youth leader and I was not allowed to even sit in the youth class! I was told that if anyone asked me about my pants not to answer them...basically they didn't wont me to reveal how I studied out modesty! I guess afraid others would study it out for themselves too... I am still at the same church. I basically am a "pew warmer"...because I can't be used in any area, well besides clean toilets! They'll put me on the cleaning schedule! I am only at that church because my husband goes. I know if I say anything about leaving he would go crazy..and I want to keep peace in my home... Out of all the people at church, there is one lady who has shown unconditional love toward me! I have been out in public, in my pants, and seen folks from church and they would turn the other way or act like they dont see me. My own pastors wife ignored me at the store... I don't believe God is going to judge me because of what I am wearing. Duet. 22:5 is so brainwashing! It is a means of control! Every UPC article is always directed toward women, hardly ever men. It is such a double standard. You can be decked out holiness from the top of your head with your "pentecostal hair-do" to the soles of your feet and be so hollow inside! I have become less judge mental toward people, my nose is not so far up in the air, and I have shed my holy than thou attitude toward others... My relationship with Jesus has changed. I am so much more closer to God without all the unnecessary weights on me in order to live for him. The bible says "come as you are". Not go put on your skirt and come to me! I brought up the fact to the pastor about tights originally designed for men and women wearing them today. His response was "tights or pantyhose are an undergarment". My response "It's no longer an UNDERgarment when you were a knee length skirt and your UNDERgarment is exposed." His response "We are not here to talk about pantyhose, but your pants". Give me a break! My heart goes out to all these women and men being bound by mans tradition, rather than the word of God! I am 28 years old and have attended a UPC church for the past 14 years. About 3 years ago I began to study scriptures concerning “standards” for MYSELF. What I found was scriptures that were twisted and didn’t really apply. I told my husband, who at the time was a youth pastor, how I felt. I was literally on the verge of a nervous breakdown from so much pressure about the skirt issue. He said we would have to tell our pastor. So our pastor came to our house, I told him how I felt and ask me if I had fasted and prayed about this and I told him yes. He told me that he would reveal it to the ladies at church and let them know that my husband did not agree and that I would be pulled from every area of leadership (Platform singer, sunday school involvement, youth class, everything). Then he went on to tell me that he would warn other who became to close to me to not hang around me because of my pants. Believe me, he sure did that!
Once everyone found out I was wearing pants I was pretty much an outcast. My husband was still youth leader and I was not allowed to even sit in the youth class! I was told that if anyone asked me about my pants not to answer them…basically they didn’t wont me to reveal how I studied out modesty! I guess afraid others would study it out for themselves too…
I am still at the same church. I basically am a “pew warmer”…because I can’t be used in any area, well besides clean toilets! They’ll put me on the cleaning schedule! I am only at that church because my husband goes. I know if I say anything about leaving he would go crazy..and I want to keep peace in my home…
Out of all the people at church, there is one lady who has shown unconditional love toward me! I have been out in public, in my pants, and seen folks from church and they would turn the other way or act like they dont see me. My own pastors wife ignored me at the store…
I don’t believe God is going to judge me because of what I am wearing. Duet. 22:5 is so brainwashing! It is a means of control! Every UPC article is always directed toward women, hardly ever men. It is such a double standard. You can be decked out holiness from the top of your head with your “pentecostal hair-do” to the soles of your feet and be so hollow inside! I have become less judge mental toward people, my nose is not so far up in the air, and I have shed my holy than thou attitude toward others…
My relationship with Jesus has changed. I am so much more closer to God without all the unnecessary weights on me in order to live for him. The bible says “come as you are”. Not go put on your skirt and come to me!
I brought up the fact to the pastor about tights originally designed for men and women wearing them today. His response was “tights or pantyhose are an undergarment”. My response “It’s no longer an UNDERgarment when you were a knee length skirt and your UNDERgarment is exposed.” His response “We are not here to talk about pantyhose, but your pants”.
Give me a break! My heart goes out to all these women and men being bound by mans tradition, rather than the word of God!

]]> Comment on What does the Bible say about facial hair? by Lee http://www.whyileft.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-facial-hair/comment-page-1/#comment-3244 Lee Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:31:39 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-facial-hair/#comment-3244 A beard is a sign of a man. ALL Prophets and Messengers wore a beard and so the idea that it is offensive is clearly wrong. I believe the beard is an important aspect of being a man as it prevents one from appearing to be like a woman which can corrupt men. Shaving the beard off goes against nature and the clear practice of the Prophets. As people who wish to follow Jesus in every way we should not only try to behave like him but we should also wish to emulate him in our appearance as it is a sign of of love and devotion to truth. Would Jesus be found upon in modern churches because he wears a beard? He didn't wear it because of fashion he word it, like all the Prophets because it is natural and part of God's standard for men. I believe that Satan wishes to misguide people and take people away from the true practice of religion and so he has invited men to shave their beards to appear to be like women. In doing Satan had changed the order of creation and these days we can see men resembling women in appearance and action. If we believe Prophets are the best of examples for us we should flow them in every way! Jesus wore a beard, I wear a beard! Simple A beard is a sign of a man. ALL Prophets and Messengers wore a beard and so the idea that it is offensive is clearly wrong.

I believe the beard is an important aspect of being a man as it prevents one from appearing to be like a woman which can corrupt men.

Shaving the beard off goes against nature and the clear practice of the Prophets. As people who wish to follow Jesus in every way we should not only try to behave like him but we should also wish to emulate him in our appearance as it is a sign of of love and devotion to truth.

Would Jesus be found upon in modern churches because he wears a beard?

He didn’t wear it because of fashion he word it, like all the Prophets because it is natural and part of God’s standard for men.

I believe that Satan wishes to misguide people and take people away from the true practice of religion and so he has invited men to shave their beards to appear to be like women. In doing Satan had changed the order of creation and these days we can see men resembling women in appearance and action.

If we believe Prophets are the best of examples for us we should flow them in every way! Jesus wore a beard, I wear a beard!

Simple

]]> Comment on Response to UPC Bible study on Make-up by Anika http://www.whyileft.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-make-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3238 Anika Fri, 05 Mar 2010 19:06:25 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-make-up/#comment-3238 Just want to apologize if that came off rude. As I was reading Portia's comments I felt the need to say I'm not judging nor looking down upon ppl with different beliefs and opinions. I love that we can agree to disasgree and still show the love of God amongst one another. I don't think anyone is being overly critical and trying to sow discord among brethren. Once again I apologize for the tone that my first comment denotes. God bless! Just want to apologize if that came off rude. As I was reading Portia’s comments I felt the need to say I’m not judging nor looking down upon ppl with different beliefs and opinions. I love that we can agree to disasgree and still show the love of God amongst one another. I don’t think anyone is being overly critical and trying to sow discord among brethren. Once again I apologize for the tone that my first comment denotes. God bless!

]]> Comment on Response to UPC Bible study on Make-up by Anika http://www.whyileft.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-make-up/comment-page-1/#comment-3237 Anika Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:42:57 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/responses-to-the-upc/response-to-upc-bible-study-on-make-up/#comment-3237 I don't quite follow you on your breakdown of Esther 2:13-14. It does not say Esther went to see the king twice. Verse 15 clearly states, "Now when the turn came for Esther.....", not when the king called for Esther's return. She had to wait her turn just like every other young woman and when her one and only turn came she requested nothing and won the favor and grace of the king. And where the heck does it say the king called her a second time?? Talk about taking Scriptures out of context! And about the whole make-up debate, make-up is immodest point blank no matter what the motives are for wearing it. Does anyone really know the meaning of immodest?? It means shameless, bold, forward, impudement, lewd, vulgar, obscene..I could go on and on. If it causes attention that does not glorify God, IT IS IMMODEST! I don’t quite follow you on your breakdown of Esther 2:13-14. It does not say Esther went to see the king twice. Verse 15 clearly states, “Now when the turn came for Esther…..”, not when the king called for Esther’s return. She had to wait her turn just like every other young woman and when her one and only turn came she requested nothing and won the favor and grace of the king. And where the heck does it say the king called her a second time?? Talk about taking Scriptures out of context! And about the whole make-up debate, make-up is immodest point blank no matter what the motives are for wearing it. Does anyone really know the meaning of immodest?? It means shameless, bold, forward, impudement, lewd, vulgar, obscene..I could go on and on. If it causes attention that does not glorify God, IT IS IMMODEST!

]]> Comment on The Nature of Truth by The Preacher http://www.whyileft.org/truth/the-nature-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-3236 The Preacher Fri, 05 Mar 2010 12:05:00 +0000 http://www.whyileft.org/general/the-nature-of-truth/#comment-3236 The gifts of tongues is divers kinds of tongues= many different languages in the spirit. Not a natural gift this is the tongues Paul was talking about when he said do all speak with tongues.= languages from the spiritual divers kinds of tongues= many kinds of tongues or languages. And no not everyone has this gift to speak in tongues more than one language in the spirit. but we all pray in an unknown tongue= singular= the initial sign of the holy ghost Acts 2:1-5 if the apostles got the holy ghost it this way we must to. The bible is the blue print. Mans words are not. In all your getting get an understanding........ The gifts of tongues is divers kinds of tongues= many different languages in the spirit.
Not a natural gift this is the tongues Paul was talking about when he said do all speak with tongues.= languages from the spiritual divers kinds of tongues= many kinds of tongues or languages.

And no not everyone has this gift to speak in tongues more than one language in the spirit. but we all pray in an unknown tongue= singular= the initial sign of the holy ghost Acts 2:1-5 if the apostles got the holy ghost it this way we must to. The bible is the blue print. Mans words are not.
In all your getting get an understanding……..

]]> Comment on The Nature of Truth by The Preacher http://www.whyileft.org/truth/the-nature-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-3235 The Preacher Fri, 05 Mar 2010 11:41:36 +0000 http://www.whyileft.org/general/the-nature-of-truth/#comment-3235 Don’t stop speaking in tongues 1 Thessalonians 5:19 (KJV) 19 Quench not the Spirit. Paul spoke in tongues 1 Corinthians 14:18-19 (KJV) 18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: 19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue. Paul said don’t stop speaking in tongues. But he said to do it in an orderly manner. This chapter speaks of order in the church so not to confuse the unbeliever. 1 Corinthians 14:39-40 (KJV) 39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40 Let all things be done decently and in order. Do all speak with tongues? No not everyone has the gift of langueages or many= divers kinds of tongues. 1 Corinthians 12:10-11 (KJV) 10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues: 11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. We must read above and below the scripture to get a good understanding. When I am praying many times my tongue or language changes in the spirit. These things are spiritually discerned you cant find a commentary who does not speak in tongues to rightly divide the word of truth. 1 Corinthians 14:2 (KJV) 2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries. If you don’t speak in tongues something is missing and you are not edified. 1 Corinthians 14:4-5 (KJV) 4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying. We must pray in an unknown tongue for this is in the spirit. But pray for interpretation he did not say stop praying in tongues. Paul said he will pray in the spirit and with an understanding. Paul is teaching the order of the gifts. If you don’t have the Holy Spirit you can’t pray in the spirit or tongues. 1 Corinthians 14:13-15 (KJV) 13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret. 14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful. 15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also. 1 Corinthians 12:27-31 (KJV) 27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. 28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. = (a gift of tongues=one of the gifts of the spirit.) 29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles? 30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret? 31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way. Paul is saying everyone has their own gifts. The apostles spoke in tongues when they received the holy Ghost. Acts 2:1-13 (KJV) 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. 2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting. 3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them. 4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance. When they were filled with the Holy Ghost they spoke in tongues, the spirit gave them this utterance. Three thousand were baptized and joined the church. This is the only way to get into the church. The bible is right somebody’s wrong. the promise of the holy ghost and baptism in Jesus name is to all generations as you read, not just the jews. Acts 2:37-41 (KJV) 37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call. 40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation. 41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. If I were you I would not take a chance, and not get saved, that is baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost. You see I did not give you my opinion I gave you the scripture and the example of it. You se corrupt men come in and lead you stray from the faith they continue to study and learn but never come to understand the basic truth. We have been warned about men like this. If a man lack wisdom let him ask of God ask your pastor if he doesn’t have the answer wait on God to show you. Study to show thyself approved rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 3:1-9 (KJV) 1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. 2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, 3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, 4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; 5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away. 6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts, 7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. 9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. If you’re not baptized in Jesus name your sins have not been taken away therefore you have unforgiven sin; the unforgiven person will not go to heaven. I did not make the rules God did you must be buried with him in water baptism. in Jesus name then you are called by God’s name he is coming for those called by his name not titles. This is the Holy Ghost prophecy and speaking in tongues Isaiah 28:9-12 (KJV) 9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts. 10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: 11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. 12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear. Hear is the Baptism =Water and Holy Ghost= Spirit prophecy for Israel and us today. Ezekiel 36:25-29 (KJV) 25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you. 26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. 27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them. 28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God. 29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you. John 3:5 (KJV) 5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Your not in the kingdom unless you Baptized=Water and filled with the Holy Ghost=Spirit. When I received the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit I spoke in tongues 28 year ago and it has never left me. I still pray in tongues as the spirit gives utterance. Repent and get saved while there is still time. A change is coming that will test all of us…….. Don’t stop speaking in tongues
1 Thessalonians 5:19 (KJV)
19 Quench not the Spirit.
Paul spoke in tongues
1 Corinthians 14:18-19 (KJV)
18 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all:
19 Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.
Paul said don’t stop speaking in tongues. But he said to do it in an orderly manner.
This chapter speaks of order in the church so not to confuse the unbeliever.
1 Corinthians 14:39-40 (KJV)
39 Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues.
40 Let all things be done decently and in order.
Do all speak with tongues? No not everyone has the gift of langueages or many= divers kinds of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:10-11 (KJV)
10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:
11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
We must read above and below the scripture to get a good understanding. When I am praying many times my tongue or language changes in the spirit. These things are spiritually discerned you cant find a commentary who does not speak in tongues to rightly divide the word of truth.
1 Corinthians 14:2 (KJV)
2 For he that speaketh in an unknown tongue speaketh not unto men, but unto God: for no man understandeth him; howbeit in the spirit he speaketh mysteries.
If you don’t speak in tongues something is missing and you are not edified.
1 Corinthians 14:4-5 (KJV)
4 He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church.
5 I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.
We must pray in an unknown tongue for this is in the spirit. But pray for interpretation he did not say stop praying in tongues. Paul said he will pray in the spirit and with an understanding. Paul is teaching the order of the gifts. If you don’t have the Holy Spirit you can’t pray in the spirit or tongues.
1 Corinthians 14:13-15 (KJV)
13 Wherefore let him that speaketh in an unknown tongue pray that he may interpret.
14 For if I pray in an unknown tongue, my spirit prayeth, but my understanding is unfruitful.
15 What is it then? I will pray with the spirit, and I will pray with the understanding also: I will sing with the spirit, and I will sing with the understanding also.

1 Corinthians 12:27-31 (KJV)
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. = (a gift of tongues=one of the gifts of the spirit.)
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
Paul is saying everyone has their own gifts. The apostles spoke in tongues when they received the holy Ghost.

Acts 2:1-13 (KJV)
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.
3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.
4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

When they were filled with the Holy Ghost they spoke in tongues, the spirit gave them this utterance.
Three thousand were baptized and joined the church. This is the only way to get into the church. The bible is right somebody’s wrong. the promise of the holy ghost and baptism in Jesus name is to all generations as you read, not just the jews.
Acts 2:37-41 (KJV)
37 Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do?
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
40 And with many other words did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation.
41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls.
If I were you I would not take a chance, and not get saved, that is baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost. You see I did not give you my opinion I gave you the scripture and the example of it. You se corrupt men come in and lead you stray from the faith they continue to study and learn but never come to understand the basic truth. We have been warned about men like this. If a man lack wisdom let him ask of God ask your pastor if he doesn’t have the answer wait on God to show you. Study to show thyself approved rightly dividing the word of truth. 2 Timothy 3:1-9 (KJV)
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
8 Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
9 But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
If you’re not baptized in Jesus name your sins have not been taken away therefore you have unforgiven sin; the unforgiven person will not go to heaven. I did not make the rules God did you must be buried with him in water baptism. in Jesus name then you are called by God’s name he is coming for those called by his name not titles.
This is the Holy Ghost prophecy and speaking in tongues
Isaiah 28:9-12 (KJV)
9 Whom shall he teach knowledge? and whom shall he make to understand doctrine? them that are weaned from the milk, and drawn from the breasts.
10 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little:
11 For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people.
12 To whom he said, This is the rest wherewith ye may cause the weary to rest; and this is the refreshing: yet they would not hear.
Hear is the Baptism =Water and Holy Ghost= Spirit prophecy for Israel and us today.
Ezekiel 36:25-29 (KJV)
25 Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
28 And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
29 I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
John 3:5 (KJV)
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Your not in the kingdom unless you Baptized=Water and filled with the Holy Ghost=Spirit.

When I received the Holy Ghost or Holy Spirit I spoke in tongues 28 year ago and it has never left me. I still pray in tongues as the spirit gives utterance.
Repent and get saved while there is still time. A change is coming that will test all of us……..

]]> Comment on The Nature of Truth by The Preacher http://www.whyileft.org/truth/the-nature-of-truth/comment-page-1/#comment-3234 The Preacher Fri, 05 Mar 2010 09:55:16 +0000 http://www.whyileft.org/general/the-nature-of-truth/#comment-3234 Josh you fight hard against the truth but I will tell you that many commentaries say that Mathew 28:19 was changed by King Constantine a pagan. Do some research on this? The Roman catholic church changed several scripture to suit their 3 God theory. There is only one God and his name is Jesus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDx1elY9LN4 The new doctrine of trinity started 325 AD the bible never points to three Gods this is the original concept of trinity. Three Gods. When you understand who God is you have no problem being baptized in his name. There is not one scripture in the bible where any one has ever got baptized in the name of the father son and holy ghost titles. So why should we do what is not written? Repentence and remissions of sins is in his name Acts 2:38 (KJV) 38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. This is why the apostles Baptized in Jesus name for the forgivenes of sin. Notice the sinner’s prayer is to repent then be baptized. Not just to pray and say I am saved. Cornelius prayed but then he was baptized after going to Peter, to wash away his sins just like Paul has done using the name of the Lord in baptism. Mark 16:16 (KJV) 16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Jesus said it. So I say what he says, if you refuse to be baptized you will be dammed for eternity. Repent and be baptized and believe. Acts 8:14-17 (KJV) 14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John: 15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost: 16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) 17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost. Acts 22:15-16 (KJV) 15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard. 16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. You cannot be a witness without the baptism first. You must have his name to be a true witness. And the Holy Ghost Colossians 3:17 (KJV) 17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him. Anything you do must be in the name not the titles father son and holy ghost. Acts 4:12 (KJV) 12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. You must use the name in baptism. 1 Peter 3:21 (KJV) 21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: What does it save you from? Sin Acts 10:43-48 (KJV) 43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins. 44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word. 45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. 46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, 47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? 48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. After they got the Holy Ghost they got baptized. Notice these gentiles received the Holy Ghost just like the Jews did. These were John the Baptist disciple they believed but did not have the Holy Ghost. Belief is only the beginning. Belief alone does not mean you have everything you need as you will see here. Acts 19:1-7 (KJV) 1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples, 2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. 3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. 4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. 5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. 6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. 7 And all the men were about twelve. We can prove the name of Jesus in baptism but Trinitarians can’t prove theirs. where any one ever said father son or holy ghost in baptism. You say that baptism is not important, why then did these men get re baptized by the great apostle Paul? Are you smarter than him? God told Moses to build according to the pattern he has not changed he is the same yesterday today and forever. The apostles obeyed what Jesus said to do. We must follow their example………. The preacher.................... Josh you fight hard against the truth but I will tell you that many commentaries say that Mathew 28:19 was changed by King Constantine a pagan. Do some research on this? The Roman catholic church changed several scripture to suit their 3 God theory. There is only one God and his name is Jesus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDx1elY9LN4

The new doctrine of trinity started 325 AD the bible never points to three Gods this is the original concept of trinity. Three Gods.

When you understand who God is you have no problem being baptized in his name. There is not one scripture in the bible where any one has ever got baptized in the name of the father son and holy ghost titles. So why should we do what is not written?

Repentence and remissions of sins is in his name Acts 2:38 (KJV)
38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

This is why the apostles Baptized in Jesus name for the forgivenes of sin.
Notice the sinner’s prayer is to repent then be baptized. Not just to pray and say I am saved. Cornelius prayed but then he was baptized after going to Peter, to wash away his sins just like Paul has done using the name of the Lord in baptism.

Mark 16:16 (KJV)
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
Jesus said it. So I say what he says, if you refuse to be baptized you will be dammed for eternity. Repent and be baptized and believe.

Acts 8:14-17 (KJV)
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
15 Who, when they were come down, prayed for them, that they might receive the Holy Ghost:
16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.)
17 Then laid they their hands on them, and they received the Holy Ghost.
Acts 22:15-16 (KJV)
15 For thou shalt be his witness unto all men of what thou hast seen and heard.
16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
You cannot be a witness without the baptism first. You must have his name to be a true witness. And the Holy Ghost
Colossians 3:17 (KJV)
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
Anything you do must be in the name not the titles father son and holy ghost.
Acts 4:12 (KJV)
12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.
You must use the name in baptism.
1 Peter 3:21 (KJV)
21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:
What does it save you from? Sin

Acts 10:43-48 (KJV)
43 To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,
47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?
48 And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.
After they got the Holy Ghost they got baptized. Notice these gentiles received the Holy Ghost just like the Jews did.

These were John the Baptist disciple they believed but did not have the Holy Ghost. Belief is only the beginning. Belief alone does not mean you have everything you need as you will see here.
Acts 19:1-7 (KJV)
1 And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2 He said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3 And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John’s baptism.
4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5 When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6 And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.
7 And all the men were about twelve.
We can prove the name of Jesus in baptism but Trinitarians can’t prove theirs. where any one ever said father son or holy ghost in baptism. You say that baptism is not important, why then did these men get re baptized by the great apostle Paul? Are you smarter than him? God told Moses to build according to the pattern he has not changed he is the same yesterday today and forever. The apostles obeyed what Jesus said to do. We must follow their example……….

The preacher………………..

]]> Comment on What does the Bible say about wearing jewelry? by The Preacher http://www.whyileft.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-wearing-jewelry/comment-page-1/#comment-3233 The Preacher Fri, 05 Mar 2010 06:32:28 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-wearing-jewelry/#comment-3233 Many have given an opinion based on the knowledge of the scripture but we must know what did God say to us did anyone asked God what he thinks of it? I have ask him. This is what the Holy Ghost is for. Where does it say that it is a sin in the new testament. Apostolic man and women where will you find a dress for your wife during the great tribulation unless you make or get one from somewhere. Also during this time jewels will be worthless to us without the mark of the beast. The divisions of the church are here but soon trouble will come and God will shake all nation more and more. Saints of God there will be no more division very soon prepare yourself buy gold silver and save some food buy some land and be ready. Jesus said immediately after the tribulations of those days shall the sun of man appear. Only then will he gather the elect that is the church not the Jews. Jesus said if it were not for the shortening of days no flesh should be saved. Josh I hope you are still apostolic and baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost our legalism is wrong, but our doctrine is right. We must dress modest from head to foot. If your pastor told you to obey the code of dress for the UPCI then you must do it or you have committed sin for disobedience weather it is right or wrong. One must go to another church that is Apostolic but beware for if they are not fasting and praying they are a week church and you could be lost if you follow their bad habits. God has made us free from the law but he has not given us a license to sin. Fast and pray in the Holy Ghost and God will lead you to all truth. Apostolic leaders are divided because they don’t fast and pray anymore and ask God what does he say about the matter, you see the flesh talks for them and not God. My question brothers is did God tell you to do this or that or do you have a conviction from your late pastors from the 1930;s Children of God obey them that have the rule over you don't rebel even if they are wrong long as they don’t cause you to sin against God you must obey. Only then will you please God. Make sure you are at a church where they speak in tongues Baptize in Jesus name and fast and pray. Also be sure they take the communion and foot washing and the pastor is not in immoral sin. The time is short the dollar will fall. Please prepare you have been warned don’t go to the camps. We have been wrong thinking the rapture will come before the great tribulation but I found out it will come after the great tribulation math 24: go to www.endtime.com Irving Baxter jr. he is a UPCI preacher I am not. I belong to the Apostolic Assemblies of Christ. Listen to his radio program and get the material so you will be ready. James 4:17 (KJV) 17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin. If you know to obey and you don’t your have sined. Regardless of what Jesus my God shows me about dress codes……obey your Pastors The preacher...................... Many have given an opinion based on the knowledge of the scripture but we must know what did God say to us did anyone asked God what he thinks of it? I have ask him. This is what the Holy Ghost is for. Where does it say that it is a sin in the new testament. Apostolic man and women where will you find a dress for your wife during the great tribulation unless you make or get one from somewhere. Also during this time jewels will be worthless to us without the mark of the beast.

The divisions of the church are here but soon trouble will come and God will shake all nation more and more. Saints of God there will be no more division very soon prepare yourself buy gold silver and save some food buy some land and be ready. Jesus said immediately after the tribulations of those days shall the sun of man appear. Only then will he gather the elect that is the church not the Jews. Jesus said if it were not for the shortening of days no flesh should be saved.

Josh I hope you are still apostolic and baptized in Jesus name and filled with the Holy Ghost our legalism is wrong, but our doctrine is right. We must dress modest from head to foot. If your pastor told you to obey the code of dress for the UPCI then you must do it or you have committed sin for disobedience weather it is right or wrong. One must go to another church that is Apostolic but beware for if they are not fasting and praying they are a week church and you could be lost if you follow their bad habits.

God has made us free from the law but he has not given us a license to sin. Fast and pray in the Holy Ghost and God will lead you to all truth. Apostolic leaders are divided because they don’t fast and pray anymore and ask God what does he say about the matter, you see the flesh talks for them and not God. My question brothers is did God tell you to do this or that or do you have a conviction from your late pastors from the 1930;s

Children of God obey them that have the rule over you don’t rebel even if they are wrong long as they don’t cause you to sin against God you must obey. Only then will you please God. Make sure you are at a church where they speak in tongues Baptize in Jesus name and fast and pray. Also be sure they take the communion and foot washing and the pastor is not in immoral sin. The time is short the dollar will fall.

Please prepare you have been warned don’t go to the camps. We have been wrong thinking the rapture will come before the great tribulation but I found out it will come after the great tribulation math 24: go to http://www.endtime.com Irving Baxter jr. he is a UPCI preacher I am not. I belong to the Apostolic Assemblies of Christ. Listen to his radio program and get the material so you will be ready.
James 4:17 (KJV)
17 Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is sin.
If you know to obey and you don’t your have sined.

Regardless of what Jesus my God shows me about dress codes……obey your Pastors

The preacher………………….

]]> Comment on What does the Bible say about women wearing pants? by Blanche Colgate///Toby Toby http://www.whyileft.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-women-wearing-pants/comment-page-1/#comment-3221 Blanche Colgate///Toby Toby Mon, 01 Mar 2010 06:34:23 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/what-does-the-bible-say-about/what-does-the-bible-say-about-women-wearing-pants/#comment-3221 I also have this to say. I want to say that i Praise the Lord Jesus that it "has not" (ENTERED THE MIND of "MOST MEN") across America and around the World to( CHANGE THEIR DRESS STYLE) of wearing (Pants and Shirt's) and go to the (Wearing of Dresse's, Skirt's, and Blouse's ,and Make-up.) I cant help but "Laugh" every time that it comes into my mind and i Picture a (Man Wearing a" Skirt and Blouse, or a Dress ,Pantyhose, Make-up, Jewelry and a Wig of Curly HAIR.) Most Men that i see when i go out in Public and what i saw on Television, "i dont have television in my Home any more", have stayed with the (Custom AND GRACE of Wearing Pants and Shirts and have stayed) ("LOOKING LIKE A MAN.")Praise Praise Prsise. I dont know about around the World, but here in America so many "Christian Women" have changed from being "Modest and Conservitive to Wordly." It all goes back to when ("EVE REBELLED AGAINST GOD IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND ATE OF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN") I dont believe in WOMEN PASTORS/PREACHERS. Blanche I also have this to say. I want to say that i Praise the Lord Jesus that it “has not” (ENTERED THE MIND of “MOST MEN”) across America and around the World to( CHANGE THEIR DRESS STYLE) of wearing (Pants and Shirt’s) and go to the (Wearing of Dresse’s, Skirt’s, and Blouse’s ,and Make-up.) I cant help but “Laugh” every time that it comes into my mind and i Picture a (Man Wearing a” Skirt and Blouse, or a Dress ,Pantyhose, Make-up, Jewelry and a Wig of Curly HAIR.) Most Men that i see when i go out in Public and what i saw on Television, “i dont have television in my Home any more”, have stayed with the (Custom AND GRACE of Wearing Pants and Shirts and have stayed) (”LOOKING LIKE A MAN.”)Praise Praise Prsise. I dont know about around the World, but here in America so many “Christian Women” have changed from being “Modest and Conservitive to Wordly.” It all goes back to when (”EVE REBELLED AGAINST GOD IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN AND ATE OF THE FORBIDDEN FRUIT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN”) I dont believe in WOMEN PASTORS/PREACHERS.

Blanche

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