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		<title>By: Josh (Site Admin)</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 19:42:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,

I may change the layout of the Web site one day, but as of right now I don&#039;t see a real need to. All of the articles are written by me. The comments are written by site visitors. My girlfriend (who is also former UPC) may write a testimony at some point in the future, but for now it&#039;s all written by me :)

In Christ,
- Josh S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>I may change the layout of the Web site one day, but as of right now I don&#8217;t see a real need to. All of the articles are written by me. The comments are written by site visitors. My girlfriend (who is also former UPC) may write a testimony at some point in the future, but for now it&#8217;s all written by me :)</p>
<p>In Christ,<br />
- Josh S.</p>
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		<title>By: Barry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there from eastern Canada:

I appreciate your website and all of the comments,  but I want to point out that I have a hard time discerning who is writing to whom,  without spending hours on the site comparing one paragraph to another.  

I would suggest that it might be worthwhile to have a rethink about the way the material is displayed. 

And I must say that the person who said that there is no record in the Bible or anywhere else makes a very good point.  Did the apostles drink poison ?  Maybe they were forced to, but it doesn&#039;t seem to be written anywhere in the literature of the early church.  . . . . . or is it ??   This does not bode well for the authenticity of the last few verses of Mark 16. 

Just to share something on these verses.  In my short investigations today re these verses I was looking at Clarke&#039;s commentary.  He comments with references of Islamic writers that Mohammed himself is said to have died by drinking some sort of poison.  If he was an apostle of God [LOL] he certainly didn&#039;t get any help from Mark 16. 

 It is quite apropos in these days when we are being submerged by Islam 

I would be pleased to hear from you.   
.......... Barry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there from eastern Canada:</p>
<p>I appreciate your website and all of the comments,  but I want to point out that I have a hard time discerning who is writing to whom,  without spending hours on the site comparing one paragraph to another.  </p>
<p>I would suggest that it might be worthwhile to have a rethink about the way the material is displayed. </p>
<p>And I must say that the person who said that there is no record in the Bible or anywhere else makes a very good point.  Did the apostles drink poison ?  Maybe they were forced to, but it doesn&#8217;t seem to be written anywhere in the literature of the early church.  . . . . . or is it ??   This does not bode well for the authenticity of the last few verses of Mark 16. </p>
<p>Just to share something on these verses.  In my short investigations today re these verses I was looking at Clarke&#8217;s commentary.  He comments with references of Islamic writers that Mohammed himself is said to have died by drinking some sort of poison.  If he was an apostle of God [LOL] he certainly didn&#8217;t get any help from Mark 16. </p>
<p> It is quite apropos in these days when we are being submerged by Islam </p>
<p>I would be pleased to hear from you.<br />
&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. Barry</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 22:55:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe myself that the when you get the Holy Ghost you speak in tongues. I was in church at a non denominational church for 3 years before we started going to a UPC church. I got prayed for plenty of times and thought I got the Holy Ghost a bunch, but I never spoke in tongues. I was never free.  I was bound and I felt like I couldn&#039;t never get free. But, one night God at a UPC church we started going to, God told me to get prayed for  and he was going to give me the Holy Ghost and he did and I spoke in tongues and I have had the POWER of GOD living in my life ever since. 

My husband used to tell me I had the Holy Ghost, but I knew I did not.

He believes the same was you do about tongues. He used the scripture about do all speak with tongues and Mark 16 17-18! 

Me myself I believe speaking in tongues is the inital evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost, but does everyone speak in tongues all the time.. no!! So I don&#039;t know, I am a new Christian, but I do know one thing, I was very lost when I was in a non-denominational church, and I have COMPLETLY SOLD OUT to God.. :D If it means I can&#039;t cut my hair or I have to wear skirts and no makeup with my face all broke out then you know what I am going to do it. Do I think it is a heaven or hell thing to wear make up or the hair think, no, but I do think it seperates us from the &quot;World&quot;. :D God Bless You!! 

PS You and my husband would get along great! I do not agree with what ya&#039;ll talk about!! ;) 

LET&#039;s BE SOLD OUT TO JESUS!!! WHATEVER IT TAKES!!! :D

HE GAVE HIS EVERTHING, LET&#039;s GIVE OUR EVERYTHING!! :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe myself that the when you get the Holy Ghost you speak in tongues. I was in church at a non denominational church for 3 years before we started going to a UPC church. I got prayed for plenty of times and thought I got the Holy Ghost a bunch, but I never spoke in tongues. I was never free.  I was bound and I felt like I couldn&#8217;t never get free. But, one night God at a UPC church we started going to, God told me to get prayed for  and he was going to give me the Holy Ghost and he did and I spoke in tongues and I have had the POWER of GOD living in my life ever since. </p>
<p>My husband used to tell me I had the Holy Ghost, but I knew I did not.</p>
<p>He believes the same was you do about tongues. He used the scripture about do all speak with tongues and Mark 16 17-18! </p>
<p>Me myself I believe speaking in tongues is the inital evidence of receiving the Holy Ghost, but does everyone speak in tongues all the time.. no!! So I don&#8217;t know, I am a new Christian, but I do know one thing, I was very lost when I was in a non-denominational church, and I have COMPLETLY SOLD OUT to God.. :D If it means I can&#8217;t cut my hair or I have to wear skirts and no makeup with my face all broke out then you know what I am going to do it. Do I think it is a heaven or hell thing to wear make up or the hair think, no, but I do think it seperates us from the &#8220;World&#8221;. :D God Bless You!! </p>
<p>PS You and my husband would get along great! I do not agree with what ya&#8217;ll talk about!! ;) </p>
<p>LET&#8217;s BE SOLD OUT TO JESUS!!! WHATEVER IT TAKES!!! :D</p>
<p>HE GAVE HIS EVERTHING, LET&#8217;s GIVE OUR EVERYTHING!! :D</p>
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		<title>By: Amy Fairchild</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy Fairchild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 17:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit is just receiving it. Yeah, you can use it, and I encourage that you do. BUT its not a requirement. The bible does not say receives the Holy Spirit and than speak in tongues. You receive it. It&#039;s a gift.  It also says that its to build your self up but it is Greater to Prophesy. And in one part in the NT he says its better to say 5 words in something you can understand than in 10,000 words that no one understands. Tongues is EVIDENCE of the Holy Spirit. I repeat EVIDENCE. God knows all therefore he does not need EVIDENCE. He already knows. So in this we can conclude one of two things maybe both, EVIDENCE is for man. Not God. But We are not here to please man and man or other men won&#039;t get us to heaven. Only us and our relationship with Him and His Son can get us there. Second, I honestly believe that the evidence is for ourselves. A SELF ASSURANCE, to ones self. No one else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit is just receiving it. Yeah, you can use it, and I encourage that you do. BUT its not a requirement. The bible does not say receives the Holy Spirit and than speak in tongues. You receive it. It&#8217;s a gift.  It also says that its to build your self up but it is Greater to Prophesy. And in one part in the NT he says its better to say 5 words in something you can understand than in 10,000 words that no one understands. Tongues is EVIDENCE of the Holy Spirit. I repeat EVIDENCE. God knows all therefore he does not need EVIDENCE. He already knows. So in this we can conclude one of two things maybe both, EVIDENCE is for man. Not God. But We are not here to please man and man or other men won&#8217;t get us to heaven. Only us and our relationship with Him and His Son can get us there. Second, I honestly believe that the evidence is for ourselves. A SELF ASSURANCE, to ones self. No one else.</p>
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		<title>By: Marijo Schneider</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marijo Schneider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi I am seeking answers on how to be saved. I know it is by the b;lood of JESUS. But it looks to me like a person needs to be baptised and then filled witht th Holy Spirit. I don&#039;t know if that always means tongues. Josh do you speak in tongues. I believe all the gifts of the HolySpirit are operative today. Something happened that people could see when someone received the Holy Spirit.   Thanks for you time, Could I get an answer e-mail just in case I can&#039;t get back to this site? 
                                                       Marijo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi I am seeking answers on how to be saved. I know it is by the b;lood of JESUS. But it looks to me like a person needs to be baptised and then filled witht th Holy Spirit. I don&#8217;t know if that always means tongues. Josh do you speak in tongues. I believe all the gifts of the HolySpirit are operative today. Something happened that people could see when someone received the Holy Spirit.   Thanks for you time, Could I get an answer e-mail just in case I can&#8217;t get back to this site?<br />
                                                       Marijo</p>
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		<title>By: Josh (Site Admin)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh (Site Admin)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill,

I appreciate you commenting, but I&#039;m afraid that I don&#039;t understand your question. I have never said that Mark 16:16-18 violates any grammar rules. I just reviewed the comments and no one else has made that claim either.

If you would like to re-phrase your question so that it has something to do with the article that I have written then that will be fine. Otherwise, I must ask that you keep your comments limited to the article that is being discussed.

Thanks for understanding =)

- Josh S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill,</p>
<p>I appreciate you commenting, but I&#8217;m afraid that I don&#8217;t understand your question. I have never said that Mark 16:16-18 violates any grammar rules. I just reviewed the comments and no one else has made that claim either.</p>
<p>If you would like to re-phrase your question so that it has something to do with the article that I have written then that will be fine. Otherwise, I must ask that you keep your comments limited to the article that is being discussed.</p>
<p>Thanks for understanding =)</p>
<p>- Josh S.</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am confused on many scriptures, and looking for comments. Sorry</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am confused on many scriptures, and looking for comments. Sorry</p>
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		<title>By: bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Nov 2010 23:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Conjuntive word AND translated from the Greek word &quot;de&quot;, delta epsilon is translated 934 times as And, 1237 as But, and appears 2870 times in the N.T. It is used 38 times in the first 16 verses of chapter 1 of Matthew, just as it is in Mark 16:17 as a conjunction word connecting verses 16 &amp; 17 together making this a continuous Boolean Statement. It is not violating any grammer rules, would someone please explain the problem. 
There is another conjuction word for And in the N.T. It is kai, kappa alpha iota, appears 9251 times, translated AND 8173 times, and never But. 
How many other times will it be out of context, as many of the scriptures in Matthew, Mark, and Luke do not appear in John, and they are all four Gospels of the Kingdom of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Conjuntive word AND translated from the Greek word &#8220;de&#8221;, delta epsilon is translated 934 times as And, 1237 as But, and appears 2870 times in the N.T. It is used 38 times in the first 16 verses of chapter 1 of Matthew, just as it is in Mark 16:17 as a conjunction word connecting verses 16 &amp; 17 together making this a continuous Boolean Statement. It is not violating any grammer rules, would someone please explain the problem.<br />
There is another conjuction word for And in the N.T. It is kai, kappa alpha iota, appears 9251 times, translated AND 8173 times, and never But.<br />
How many other times will it be out of context, as many of the scriptures in Matthew, Mark, and Luke do not appear in John, and they are all four Gospels of the Kingdom of God.</p>
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		<title>By: A Humble Servant</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Humble Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 13:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What saves us is the BLOOD OF JESUS!!!!  The BLOOD of Jesus washes away our sins - not tongues!  However, speaking in tongues is VERY POWERFUL!  If someone doesn&#039;t believe in it, then obviously they have never had an experience!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What saves us is the BLOOD OF JESUS!!!!  The BLOOD of Jesus washes away our sins &#8211; not tongues!  However, speaking in tongues is VERY POWERFUL!  If someone doesn&#8217;t believe in it, then obviously they have never had an experience!</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I speak in tongues
and it absolutely strengthens me and empowers my prayer life,
out of experience the biggest breakthroughs Ive had in my life
are when I pray in tongues,
my husband was an unsaved man from catholic backround 
and a mouth on him of swearing and abuse,
there were days I was in torment thinking I was bound to 
him forever with no way out,
I never gave up I prayed!!
4 years later I testify he is becoming an awsome man of God,
I am so blessed he is such a good and loving, faithful husband
and amazing dad.
Demons hate tongues!! so do the opposite to what they want 
pray in tongues if God gives you  the gift, break satans power
God has broken many generational curses in my line and husbands line,
we need to connect to the supernatural and tongues is a great way to
plug into the power source,
I have seen great fruit from it and know its a blessing from the Holy Spirit.
I pray in tongues I bind and loos MATHEW 18 18 we have so much
authority in christ through prayer and I visualize strongholds and walls
breaking while I speak in tongues, I wish i did it more!!
I think everyone can benefit from tongues but not sure about it not 
been for everyone, I think its for those of us who ask for it its simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I speak in tongues<br />
and it absolutely strengthens me and empowers my prayer life,<br />
out of experience the biggest breakthroughs Ive had in my life<br />
are when I pray in tongues,<br />
my husband was an unsaved man from catholic backround<br />
and a mouth on him of swearing and abuse,<br />
there were days I was in torment thinking I was bound to<br />
him forever with no way out,<br />
I never gave up I prayed!!<br />
4 years later I testify he is becoming an awsome man of God,<br />
I am so blessed he is such a good and loving, faithful husband<br />
and amazing dad.<br />
Demons hate tongues!! so do the opposite to what they want<br />
pray in tongues if God gives you  the gift, break satans power<br />
God has broken many generational curses in my line and husbands line,<br />
we need to connect to the supernatural and tongues is a great way to<br />
plug into the power source,<br />
I have seen great fruit from it and know its a blessing from the Holy Spirit.<br />
I pray in tongues I bind and loos MATHEW 18 18 we have so much<br />
authority in christ through prayer and I visualize strongholds and walls<br />
breaking while I speak in tongues, I wish i did it more!!<br />
I think everyone can benefit from tongues but not sure about it not<br />
been for everyone, I think its for those of us who ask for it its simple.</p>
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