Comments on: When is Truth no longer true? http://www.whyileft.org/truth/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/ Thoughts from the mind of Josh Spiers: Formerly Apostolic Pentecostal, always Christian Fri, 03 Feb 2012 02:56:19 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jess http://www.whyileft.org/truth/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/comment-page-1/#comment-16604 Jess Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:39:47 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/general/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/#comment-16604 Reading this, and the following comments gives me hope. This summer I have become very good friends with a couple people who are involved in and were raised in a UPC/Apostolic church. I've been discouraged and hurt by the fact that they see me as unsaved because I grew up in a Christian Reformed church and now attend a Baptist church. I keep praying for them and sharing my testimony because I feel God has put me in their life for a reason. I keep praying that he will open their eyes to the truth and use me in whatever way he wills. There are many times when I am tempted to give up because I feel they have been so indoctrinated that they will never really listen to what I'm saying. Hearing from people who were in the UPC church and who were able to break away from it gives me hope. Ultimately I know that it is God who will change their heart, but reading this and the comments with it were definately and encouragement. Reading this, and the following comments gives me hope. This summer I have become very good friends with a couple people who are involved in and were raised in a UPC/Apostolic church. I’ve been discouraged and hurt by the fact that they see me as unsaved because I grew up in a Christian Reformed church and now attend a Baptist church. I keep praying for them and sharing my testimony because I feel God has put me in their life for a reason. I keep praying that he will open their eyes to the truth and use me in whatever way he wills. There are many times when I am tempted to give up because I feel they have been so indoctrinated that they will never really listen to what I’m saying. Hearing from people who were in the UPC church and who were able to break away from it gives me hope. Ultimately I know that it is God who will change their heart, but reading this and the comments with it were definately and encouragement.

]]> By: Karen http://www.whyileft.org/truth/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/comment-page-1/#comment-14197 Karen Thu, 09 Jun 2011 13:36:34 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/general/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/#comment-14197 What a joy to know I am not alone and I was only exposed for 8 months. But because I was not only searching to know Jesus I was also searching for a "family." I was drawn into the fellowship the moment I stepped foot in the Apostolic-faith church here in southern Maine. The pastor, a very handsome charismatic man "had me at hello (the words from the movie Jerry McGuire)." Leaving was painful because I wanted to remain with these folks. I sent article after article with scripture hoping to change the pastor's beliefs about speaking in tongues (as step one) so I could remain. When I had this revelation I said WHOA sister. This isn't about you. So I apologized, wished them well and quit all contact. I was immediately set free although I still miss them. Truth really does set us free! Praise God for His wisdom to shine upon those who will listen. What a joy to know I am not alone and I was only exposed for 8 months. But because I was not only searching to know Jesus I was also searching for a “family.” I was drawn into the fellowship the moment I stepped foot in the Apostolic-faith church here in southern Maine. The pastor, a very handsome charismatic man “had me at hello (the words from the movie Jerry McGuire).” Leaving was painful because I wanted to remain with these folks. I sent article after article with scripture hoping to change the pastor’s beliefs about speaking in tongues (as step one) so I could remain. When I had this revelation I said WHOA sister. This isn’t about you. So I apologized, wished them well and quit all contact. I was immediately set free although I still miss them.

Truth really does set us free! Praise God for His wisdom to shine upon those who will listen.

]]> By: Charles Buchanan http://www.whyileft.org/truth/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/comment-page-1/#comment-9684 Charles Buchanan Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:37:52 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/general/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/#comment-9684 Ive been away from the upc for about 7 months and i feel so great! I had been praying for guidance and the hand of God to lead me into faith. I came to my senses when my father died in 07, the pastor of the church came to the hospice and I was crushed because I thought he was surely in hell. Because He hadnt been baptized in Jesus name or spoke in tongues but he was a awesome guy, that loved and gave. to make a long story short I was in tears I told this pastor my fears about my dad and he told me well remember the thief on the cross God can do what he wants. What i thought just last sunday you said if we arent baptized in Jesus name and have spoken in tongues we are not saved! From that moment on I no longer believed a thing he told me and began my search for faith in God. It took me 3 more years to get away from that place. I feel like I have been in hell for most of my life because of the lies I was taught. Now I am free, Im not perfect but free! Ive been away from the upc for about 7 months and i feel so great! I had been praying for guidance and the hand of God to lead me into faith. I came to my senses when my father died in 07, the pastor of the church came to the hospice and I was crushed because I thought he was surely in hell. Because He hadnt been baptized in Jesus name or spoke in tongues but he was a awesome guy, that loved and gave. to make a long story short I was in tears I told this pastor my fears about my dad and he told me well remember the thief on the cross God can do what he wants. What i thought just last sunday you said if we arent baptized in Jesus name and have spoken in tongues we are not saved! From that moment on I no longer believed a thing he told me and began my search for faith in God. It took me 3 more years to get away from that place. I feel like I have been in hell for most of my life because of the lies I was taught. Now I am free, Im not perfect but free!

]]> By: Em http://www.whyileft.org/truth/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/comment-page-1/#comment-15 Em Thu, 27 Mar 2008 20:53:54 +0000 http://test.jspiers.org/general/when-is-truth-no-longer-true/#comment-15 I don't know who you are but PRAISE GOD!!! I could not believe it when I read about the cards!! WOW that is amazing. I have been looking for an explanation like this for years. I left 2 years ago and I wept and didn't know how to stand on my own untill I pressed on and the Lord heard my cry. I was under a grip/stronghold of the upci in colorado that I went to for 15 years. No more. The Lord set me free. I found a church that has ballance and I am free from that bondage I dove into. I don't know why I gave so much to them just to be chewed up and spit out. The Lord told me that It was HE whom I must Follow. I do. God Bless you. You'd be surprised with how many people out here in colorado are surching for a way out. So many I know are still in it because they say there is no where to go otherwise they would of been gone years ago. How sad. I don’t know who you are but PRAISE GOD!!! I could not believe it when I read about the cards!! WOW that is amazing. I have been looking for an explanation like this for years. I left 2 years ago and I wept and didn’t know how to stand on my own untill I pressed on and the Lord heard my cry. I was under a grip/stronghold of the upci in colorado that I went to for 15 years. No more. The Lord set me free. I found a church that has ballance and I am free from that bondage I dove into. I don’t know why I gave so much to them just to be chewed up and spit out. The Lord told me that It was HE whom I must Follow. I do. God Bless you. You’d be surprised with how many people out here in colorado are surching for a way out. So many I know are still in it because they say there is no where to go otherwise they would of been gone years ago. How sad.

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