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	<title>Comments on: What does the Bible say about wearing make-up?</title>
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	<description>Thoughts from the mind of Josh Spiers: Formerly Apostolic Pentecostal, always Christian</description>
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		<title>By: Josh (Site Admin)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 06:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robin, I&#039;m pretty sure that Faith Tabernacle in Shreveport, LA, would meet that qualification: http://faithtabernacleshreveport.com/index.php?s=au&amp;nid=123334.

My understanding is that the church is apostolic Pentecostal in their doctrines of the Godhead, baptism, and tongues, but they are not &quot;holiness.&quot; My understanding is that they were at one point UPC and are currently pastored by a former UPC pastor (or perhaps evangelist, I am not sure).

There are quite a few others out there, but Faith Tabernacle is the only one I know of off hand.

&lt;b&gt;&lt;center&gt;** Please note that my mentioning them is NOT an endorsement of the church. I don&#039;t know anything about them beyond their statement of faith and some familiarity with their pastor from back when he was still in the UPC. **&lt;/center&gt;&lt;/b&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robin, I&#8217;m pretty sure that Faith Tabernacle in Shreveport, LA, would meet that qualification: <a href="http://faithtabernacleshreveport.com/index.php?s=au&#038;nid=123334" rel="nofollow">http://faithtabernacleshreveport.com/index.php?s=au&#038;nid=123334</a>.</p>
<p>My understanding is that the church is apostolic Pentecostal in their doctrines of the Godhead, baptism, and tongues, but they are not &#8220;holiness.&#8221; My understanding is that they were at one point UPC and are currently pastored by a former UPC pastor (or perhaps evangelist, I am not sure).</p>
<p>There are quite a few others out there, but Faith Tabernacle is the only one I know of off hand.</p>
<p><b><center>** Please note that my mentioning them is NOT an endorsement of the church. I don&#8217;t know anything about them beyond their statement of faith and some familiarity with their pastor from back when he was still in the UPC. **</center></b></p>
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		<title>By: Robin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2010 05:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are there churches that believe in the Acts 2:38 doctrine..but don&#039;t enforce these strict outward standards?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are there churches that believe in the Acts 2:38 doctrine..but don&#8217;t enforce these strict outward standards?</p>
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		<title>By: Martha Morales</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martha Morales</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jun 2010 01:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 Peter 3
3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 
I understand the issue you are trying to argue but the lord has called us to be seperated from everyone else.  make up was a common practice of the Egyptians and even then the lord called his people to be seperated from them and encouraged them not to take on their traditions and ways. I am UPC and I dont believe that you will go to hell for wearing make up but disobedience is displeasing to the lord so if you are going to a church that preaches a standard and you cant obey then find somewhere else to go so that you are not being disobedient to the man of God, but, I end with this question? where was it that you first found and met the lord ? where was it that you received the holy ghost and spoke in tongues for the first time? what was it that caught your attention to the UPC church? I know for myself it was in a UPC church that I had my first experience with the lord and it was the way that they were set apart from everyone else that caught my attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 Peter 3<br />
3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;<br />
I understand the issue you are trying to argue but the lord has called us to be seperated from everyone else.  make up was a common practice of the Egyptians and even then the lord called his people to be seperated from them and encouraged them not to take on their traditions and ways. I am UPC and I dont believe that you will go to hell for wearing make up but disobedience is displeasing to the lord so if you are going to a church that preaches a standard and you cant obey then find somewhere else to go so that you are not being disobedient to the man of God, but, I end with this question? where was it that you first found and met the lord ? where was it that you received the holy ghost and spoke in tongues for the first time? what was it that caught your attention to the UPC church? I know for myself it was in a UPC church that I had my first experience with the lord and it was the way that they were set apart from everyone else that caught my attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Pentecostal and Proud!!!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pentecostal and Proud!!!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jun 2010 02:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would rather please God too much, then not enough at all. Just sayin!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would rather please God too much, then not enough at all. Just sayin!</p>
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		<title>By: Kimberly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kimberly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 22:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Josh, and everyone else for the commentary.  This is a very sensitive subject.  I am concerned for some because they think there needs to be concensus on this subject.  I believe we do agree that make-up is not a matter of salvation.  Wouldn&#039;t the more prudent and wise thing to do be to allow God to speak to us personally on the subject, or freely abstain from it as a gift of gratitude to Him rather than try to convince everyone else as to its &quot;sinfulness&quot;?  I have belonged to Jesus for many years.  A few years ago my mother joined the UPC church and alienated many of her children by focusing on these types of issues--make-up, hair and the proper wording concerning baptism.  What I find most sad is that many comments that were made on this site may alienate people from God simply because they don&#039;t want to join the debate.  Please, let us refrain from personal comments concerning other writer&#039;s hearts &amp; desire to please God.  Since none knows the heart but the Master himself, we should be examples of grace, kindness and gentleness--since these are definately pleasing to Him.  The Holy Spirit himself reveals to each one the sin, rebellion and argumentative spirit.  He will work as needed to remove what is needed in His time.  Our self-righteous spirits do more damage to baby or pre-Christians than they are helpful. 

Again, my thanks to Josh for this site and for other articles on tatoos.  I had originally been looking for information on that subject and found your information most helpful.  

Lord God, please bless and keep Josh, build him up in all righteousness and fulfill Your promises to him.  In Jesus&#039; name.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Josh, and everyone else for the commentary.  This is a very sensitive subject.  I am concerned for some because they think there needs to be concensus on this subject.  I believe we do agree that make-up is not a matter of salvation.  Wouldn&#8217;t the more prudent and wise thing to do be to allow God to speak to us personally on the subject, or freely abstain from it as a gift of gratitude to Him rather than try to convince everyone else as to its &#8220;sinfulness&#8221;?  I have belonged to Jesus for many years.  A few years ago my mother joined the UPC church and alienated many of her children by focusing on these types of issues&#8211;make-up, hair and the proper wording concerning baptism.  What I find most sad is that many comments that were made on this site may alienate people from God simply because they don&#8217;t want to join the debate.  Please, let us refrain from personal comments concerning other writer&#8217;s hearts &amp; desire to please God.  Since none knows the heart but the Master himself, we should be examples of grace, kindness and gentleness&#8211;since these are definately pleasing to Him.  The Holy Spirit himself reveals to each one the sin, rebellion and argumentative spirit.  He will work as needed to remove what is needed in His time.  Our self-righteous spirits do more damage to baby or pre-Christians than they are helpful. </p>
<p>Again, my thanks to Josh for this site and for other articles on tatoos.  I had originally been looking for information on that subject and found your information most helpful.  </p>
<p>Lord God, please bless and keep Josh, build him up in all righteousness and fulfill Your promises to him.  In Jesus&#8217; name.</p>
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		<title>By: dot</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 16:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my opinion make-up is A waist of time I guess I am not neat and tidy .In my opinion it makes men and women look like clowns .I think Christina has it half right proud and unteachable people. I don&#039;t see the purpose in make-up so just because queen easter  wore it I guess it makes it good and attractive. In my opinion its a waist of time and money most people that wear it still look bad or worse!  I have other important thing in my life than to think about what color mascara to wear !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my opinion make-up is A waist of time I guess I am not neat and tidy .In my opinion it makes men and women look like clowns .I think Christina has it half right proud and unteachable people. I don&#8217;t see the purpose in make-up so just because queen easter  wore it I guess it makes it good and attractive. In my opinion its a waist of time and money most people that wear it still look bad or worse!  I have other important thing in my life than to think about what color mascara to wear !</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 00:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you gotta look at the whole bible not just that scripture
another example of scripture abuse,
did you not read the whole essay I wrote?
why waste my time with proud and unteachable people
I wont be visiting this site any more, pure waste of time,
I think God would rather I spend quality time with him
reading the word than online with useless debates
im not going to be the bate of satan
I think this is a sin and I will be the first to admit it
u can all argue and stay in bondage
or humble yourselves and get set free
 bless you all x</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you gotta look at the whole bible not just that scripture<br />
another example of scripture abuse,<br />
did you not read the whole essay I wrote?<br />
why waste my time with proud and unteachable people<br />
I wont be visiting this site any more, pure waste of time,<br />
I think God would rather I spend quality time with him<br />
reading the word than online with useless debates<br />
im not going to be the bate of satan<br />
I think this is a sin and I will be the first to admit it<br />
u can all argue and stay in bondage<br />
or humble yourselves and get set free<br />
 bless you all x</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 May 2010 14:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1 Peter 3
 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; 

 4But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price



Isn&#039;t makeup also an outward adorning?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1 Peter 3<br />
 3Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel; </p>
<p> 4But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t makeup also an outward adorning?</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 May 2010 03:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i want to apologise Jeanette if i seemed harsh in my response,
perhaps I misunderstood you, 
If you are talking about yourself only fair enough
as long as you do not think all of us put on makeup just to 
attract men as im happily married to a wonderful man who 
loves me the way I am and have no need to impress anyone 
else,
please forgive me if I said too much 
as were words are many sin is present
but i just honestly had to reply to state that im not wearing
makeup for that purpose,
it is for grooming only, just as my house 
is neat and tidy so is my image, 
God likes clean cut not dirty.
God is everything beautiful and beauty even
in the bible was considered blessing and favour so
was wealth and gold and jewels and gifts,
the prostituite poured fragant oil on the lord and when
he was born the 3 wise men gave expensive gifts and 
fragrances</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i want to apologise Jeanette if i seemed harsh in my response,<br />
perhaps I misunderstood you,<br />
If you are talking about yourself only fair enough<br />
as long as you do not think all of us put on makeup just to<br />
attract men as im happily married to a wonderful man who<br />
loves me the way I am and have no need to impress anyone<br />
else,<br />
please forgive me if I said too much<br />
as were words are many sin is present<br />
but i just honestly had to reply to state that im not wearing<br />
makeup for that purpose,<br />
it is for grooming only, just as my house<br />
is neat and tidy so is my image,<br />
God likes clean cut not dirty.<br />
God is everything beautiful and beauty even<br />
in the bible was considered blessing and favour so<br />
was wealth and gold and jewels and gifts,<br />
the prostituite poured fragant oil on the lord and when<br />
he was born the 3 wise men gave expensive gifts and<br />
fragrances</p>
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		<title>By: Christina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 20:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont even wear makeup most days
with kids and and a busy home I really dont have time for it
and my husband doesnt care if i do or not.
As for making the assumption that it is for the opposite sex only
that is absolute rubbish, it can be for fun and ice breaking in other 
women.
E.G i love to wear blue mascara if i get the time,
men would hate that i assume, what is attractive about blue mascara to 
a man? unless he finds women who look like clowns attractive,
but to us girls its cute and im about to go get my hair done at an
old friend of mine&#039;s salon, I have not seen her in 10 years and apparently
she is heavy into new age and just got back from a buddist retreat,
now my facebook is full of utubes on hell and envangelism so she knows
what im about, when i see her I WILL put makeup on, 
I dont need to impress her, there will be no men there so forth
I just dont  need to look like a dirty grub when im witnessing,
she is in the beauty industry and I want her to feel comfortable and
able to relate to me.
I do deliverance ministry and see alot of demonization in people,
alot you say you have left this particular denomiation but from most
of you are saying, it seems as though you are not free.
Start preaching Freedom in Christ.
Satan has some of you bound in legalism oh how he would love that,
all the lost souls that will be tormented in hell because you were
too legal to reach out to them because you are too busy worrying about
trivial matters in fact why am i wasting my time on this site? 
so the lust comment was a sure judgement of ignorance.
sounds like abit of jelousy may be present in some women here
too that if a women wears makeup her  husband my look at her,
why on earth would you assume anyone who wears makup has bad
motives, I also wear makeup because of correctional purpose,
i lost half my lips from a medical allergy, they are have pink half white and 
also i have acne scarring from before i became a christian i had acne,
when i got saved i was delivered from it praise God,
in saying that I am free still i dont feel I need to wear it but dont 
think its a sin if I do far from never bin convicted for wearing makeup,
some conviction comes from man made rules,
Holy spirit conviction is what we should listen to.
maybe God does want me on this site to envangelize to most of you.
You may be saved some of you but may also be stopping other people getting saved by placing religeous burden on them, 
my goodness I thought my old denomination Greek orthodox was strange
but at least they are free from rules on how to look,
look i try and dress decent I dont like showing flesh ect 

now this is for miss Jeannette
you made a judgment on me by saying women only wear makup
for opposite sex,
I can now say this to you as the bible sais we can judge eachother just not the 
world.
You may need to seek freedom in Christ from your false assumptions.
so if you reckon im wearing make up girl to get men to look at me,
then i would go the way and wear sexy clothinig too
Paul would not want me online debating unless I could win one soul
and many christians will be in hell.
Alot of you on this site are awsome Godly people im not talking about you,
but you may all needs some emotional healing or counselling to break off the strongholds of control and manipulation of a church that bound you to law.

In the end its all about souls and salvation and to be obedient to the word and the way of Christ and not manipulate the bible to make you look holier than thou.
have some of you really left this denomiation?
I dont even know your denomination nor do i want to 
I came across this site because i googled makeup in the bible out of
 pure curiosity,
it came about that Queen Ester and king Joseph wore it
and thats end of story for me, its in scripture people wore it
that were Godly, so that is my answer from the word nothing more
 nothing less do not add or take away it is written in the book of 
revelation, I dont need any of you religeous folk to tell me otherwise 
but maybe I can come here and tell you as I didnt belong to your denomination
and perhaps its refreshing to some of you to get some feedback from someone has has freedom for legalism, its up to you
God is your judge not me and i do  not know what is in your heart,
i have not walked your life or live inside your body to really understand you
so who would i be? im normally kind and soft, but today I felt a need to be strong in my words and cant stop typing, I believe I am spirit lead and maybe truth needs to be told to set some of you free from these burdens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont even wear makeup most days<br />
with kids and and a busy home I really dont have time for it<br />
and my husband doesnt care if i do or not.<br />
As for making the assumption that it is for the opposite sex only<br />
that is absolute rubbish, it can be for fun and ice breaking in other<br />
women.<br />
E.G i love to wear blue mascara if i get the time,<br />
men would hate that i assume, what is attractive about blue mascara to<br />
a man? unless he finds women who look like clowns attractive,<br />
but to us girls its cute and im about to go get my hair done at an<br />
old friend of mine&#8217;s salon, I have not seen her in 10 years and apparently<br />
she is heavy into new age and just got back from a buddist retreat,<br />
now my facebook is full of utubes on hell and envangelism so she knows<br />
what im about, when i see her I WILL put makeup on,<br />
I dont need to impress her, there will be no men there so forth<br />
I just dont  need to look like a dirty grub when im witnessing,<br />
she is in the beauty industry and I want her to feel comfortable and<br />
able to relate to me.<br />
I do deliverance ministry and see alot of demonization in people,<br />
alot you say you have left this particular denomiation but from most<br />
of you are saying, it seems as though you are not free.<br />
Start preaching Freedom in Christ.<br />
Satan has some of you bound in legalism oh how he would love that,<br />
all the lost souls that will be tormented in hell because you were<br />
too legal to reach out to them because you are too busy worrying about<br />
trivial matters in fact why am i wasting my time on this site?<br />
so the lust comment was a sure judgement of ignorance.<br />
sounds like abit of jelousy may be present in some women here<br />
too that if a women wears makeup her  husband my look at her,<br />
why on earth would you assume anyone who wears makup has bad<br />
motives, I also wear makeup because of correctional purpose,<br />
i lost half my lips from a medical allergy, they are have pink half white and<br />
also i have acne scarring from before i became a christian i had acne,<br />
when i got saved i was delivered from it praise God,<br />
in saying that I am free still i dont feel I need to wear it but dont<br />
think its a sin if I do far from never bin convicted for wearing makeup,<br />
some conviction comes from man made rules,<br />
Holy spirit conviction is what we should listen to.<br />
maybe God does want me on this site to envangelize to most of you.<br />
You may be saved some of you but may also be stopping other people getting saved by placing religeous burden on them,<br />
my goodness I thought my old denomination Greek orthodox was strange<br />
but at least they are free from rules on how to look,<br />
look i try and dress decent I dont like showing flesh ect </p>
<p>now this is for miss Jeannette<br />
you made a judgment on me by saying women only wear makup<br />
for opposite sex,<br />
I can now say this to you as the bible sais we can judge eachother just not the<br />
world.<br />
You may need to seek freedom in Christ from your false assumptions.<br />
so if you reckon im wearing make up girl to get men to look at me,<br />
then i would go the way and wear sexy clothinig too<br />
Paul would not want me online debating unless I could win one soul<br />
and many christians will be in hell.<br />
Alot of you on this site are awsome Godly people im not talking about you,<br />
but you may all needs some emotional healing or counselling to break off the strongholds of control and manipulation of a church that bound you to law.</p>
<p>In the end its all about souls and salvation and to be obedient to the word and the way of Christ and not manipulate the bible to make you look holier than thou.<br />
have some of you really left this denomiation?<br />
I dont even know your denomination nor do i want to<br />
I came across this site because i googled makeup in the bible out of<br />
 pure curiosity,<br />
it came about that Queen Ester and king Joseph wore it<br />
and thats end of story for me, its in scripture people wore it<br />
that were Godly, so that is my answer from the word nothing more<br />
 nothing less do not add or take away it is written in the book of<br />
revelation, I dont need any of you religeous folk to tell me otherwise<br />
but maybe I can come here and tell you as I didnt belong to your denomination<br />
and perhaps its refreshing to some of you to get some feedback from someone has has freedom for legalism, its up to you<br />
God is your judge not me and i do  not know what is in your heart,<br />
i have not walked your life or live inside your body to really understand you<br />
so who would i be? im normally kind and soft, but today I felt a need to be strong in my words and cant stop typing, I believe I am spirit lead and maybe truth needs to be told to set some of you free from these burdens.</p>
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